This university has impacted my life in so many ways, and has helped me see just how to integrate my faith and integrity into my career. Carson) does not equate to belief in everything they believe or agreement with any or all of their actions. If a student is of legal drinking age and wishes to imbibe in the summer, it is none of Cedarvilles business and does not impact them in any way. The Yellow Jackets compete for championships in 16 NCAA. If you EVER want to be in a highly sexually-charged atmosphere, these are the places to be. Just my humble, unbiased opinion; take it or leave it. Wow, the writer of this article is very intolerant. I often hang out in large groups without a chaperon at like 2am. Beards are completely banned without explicit permission from the school, and neither gender may color their hair or wear any form-fitting apparel. I went to the definitely not religious university of Iowa State University years ago. L, 8-10. Guys did not have to accept dates with interested women. -Tobacco, its a smoke free campus, just like NKU is now. This article reads like it was written by a the assistant editor of my high school newsletter with a skewed agenda and out dated infobut I enjoyed it. Students are also prohibited from recreational drug use, misusing legally prescribed medications, or using synthetic street drugs or medical marijuana. Cashiers Office. If you dont like it find somewhere else to go to college. If Jesus were alive, why wouldnt he want people to volunteer in nursing homes? Your paragraph on Oral Roberts University is inaccurate. From 1920-1933, the United States unwittingly participated in a massive experiment into the idea of illegalizing alcohol of any kind. Because I want to go to Asbury. It is near 30,000 dollars a year, and Cedarville is not known for its great financial aid! Long before QAnon, Trump, and Anti-Vaxx, The Dry Pledge was THE Litmus Test of your Salvation. Secondly, it promulgates the idea that women's bodies are shameful and ought to be covered up. After dusk, mixed groups are not allowed to fraternize without chaperones because having a group of friends including males and females alike is not normal psychosocial behavior it is improper and apparently leads to premarital sex and dancing and other alleged affronts to Jesus. Students are also prohibited from recreational drug use, misusing legally prescribed medications, or using synthetic street drugs or medical marijuana. The men and women have their own elevators, must not be together in isolated areas, cannot swim together, even at the beach. Movies again, the handbook gave the wrong message. All students with a course load of 6 hours or more are required to contribute at least 6 hours of volunteer work in a Christian-related field per month, and they are heavily discouraged from taking jobs that distract from the schools staunch moral guidelines. America as a whole is definitely not a good indicator of Gods standards as displayed in the nature of his Son and set forth in his commands. But honestly, the teachers and student body are just as lenient about the rule as they are in K-12 schools. If your radar is accurate, it will not take you long to bag a highly-repressed freak. Cedarville provides the following specific guidelines intended to help all students with their commitment to moral purity: Students are prohibited from accessing pornographic or obscene websites or creating links to such sites. You are so used to being controlled that its normal or just easier to do what your are told. D.A. As one of the top Christian colleges in the Midwest, Cedarville University attracts 5,082 undergraduate , graduate, and dual enrolled high school students to more than 175 areas of study. If merely one look at offensive material is more powerful than the exalted Holy canons, your God sounds as defenseless against the Devil as you are. . As Paul said, Be not drunk with wine, but we filled with the holy spirit. Articles are submitted and written anonymously in order to protect the identities of students and non-students alike who could face backlash or punishment for expressing their viewpoints that differ in any way from Cedarville University. Please reply, This is not a comment, but a request. They also will not do anything to you for supporting it as they follow Christs example in loving everyone and not judging others for their beliefs. Also, Dami, Sodom and Gamorah was only said to be evil because they tried to A) rape two visitor (angels mind you) 2) they were gluttonous in their behavior 3) I am pretty darn sure that a gay man was NOT on the committee for writing the Bible 4) the bible also condemns women for having a period.. (I did study the Bible), strict rules can actually push one from God. Thats whats up. He let people reach out and touch him because to touch him was to touch life and forgiveness, no matter their past or present. Welcome to Cedarville University, an exceptional Christian university in southwest Ohio. (We had not had sex for those who was wondering) I was on the phone with him in my dorm room and my RA overheard our conversation. Theyre not going to hunt you down or anything. Except he isnt the one setting it; its man claiming to speak for him. God created sex. I dont necessarily agree with Cedarvilles alcohol policies while on campus or during the school year, but I can see where they are coming from with restrictions. Perhaps they are harmless. BUT, they do not have any rules against you watching them on your own, or even on things like violent video games. Other academic levels are not stringently held to these policies, but they must sign out if they want to return after curfew. 1 Corinthians 8:8 argues, Food will not commend us to God. The student body is also expected to maintain a standard of modesty at all times while on campus. Church attendance is required once a week, but it is not monitored. I will be praying for you and I pray that God works in your life and makes you realize that saying nasty words about something is not going to take away the scars of what someone did to you, or the anger that results from it. Clothing should be gender appropriate. A little bit of bleeding and discomfort is not the end of the world at PCC. Regardless of popular opinion, political correctness, or the ideas of major theologians, truth is always truth. As for the dress code, it sounds old fashioned and sexist. However, I dont think its wrong for students to want change and to disagree with them, especially when it comes to injustices such as in the mental health article. That rule only applies to PUBLIC showings of movies, like if a student run organization wanted to have a movie night on the green for the student body. Stephen, I think the writers point about The Passion of the Christ is that we werent supposed to watch any R-rated movies, yet we were heavily encouraged to watch The Passion of the Christ. As with many Christian colleges and universities, Liberty extends its behavioral guidelines to students who live off campus as well as on. Cedarville police were called to the Stevens Student Center Tuesday morning after a 911 caller reported that a male student had been stabbed. Youre a different kind of stupid. (https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/themelios/article/on-disputable-matters/) While I do not agree with every aspect of Carsons analysis, he does raise some key truths about disputable matters.. They rally behind the 10 Commandments, but when asked about their own practices, they quickly throw up the New Testament. Cedarville justifies their policy by referencing the Drug-free Schools and Communities Act, which requires universities to provide, Standards of conduct that clearly prohibit, at a minimum, the unlawful possession, use, or distribution of illicit drugs and alcohol on school property or as part of any school activities foremployees (Policy)orstudents (Code of Conduct) and a statement of disciplinary actions associated with those violations. It is a small institution with an enrollment of 3,540 undergraduate students. Anyone caught in such a position faces discipline or dismissal. Woe be unto a civilization who rejects the counsel of the Holy One, and would none of his reproof! go Michigan State! Mixed groups of males and females must agree to confer in the presence of a chaperone. Sexual abuse and incest are very understandably considered a violation due to their illegality and penchant for psychological damage, but legal activities like abortion, premarital and extramarital sex (even within the confines of an open marriage), and homosexuality are held up as just as appalling. Attending chapel is mandatory, and it is heavily suggested that not participating in other Christian ceremonies or functions is highly frowned upon. BUT, if you are homosexual, they wont kick you off campus. You understand, a lot of people are hunting round for this information, you could help them greatly. There is no doubt in my mind that students who wish to drink will find a way to do so, just like students who struggle with sexual temptation will find a way to engage in such activities if that is truly the desire of their hearts. Also, youre a little too sarcastic in your sentences. My e-mail address is I forget to mention the school name Christian The year I spent attending Pensacola Christian College was the worse year of my life. Still having nightmares. However, this article doesnt actually say that these schools are bad just that they are very strict, which they are. I love the Godly atmosphere it gives, and completely disagree with you. Theese rules are ridiculous, esp. Abuse of alcohol is not consistent with a spiritually mature lifestyle. Students are prohibited from posting or sharing sexually provocative material. Cedarville would be served well to move on from archaic legalistic principles of the past towards being an example of grace and freedom in Christ. All mixed groups of men and women both on and off campus require the presence of a chaperone to intercede on any behaviors they deem offensive to their conservative sensibilities. Alcohol use can reduce a persons ability to make good decisions about sex and is commonly associated with various forms of sexual immorality, including sexual and physical assault. The veritably Orwellian Florida Christian College combs through its students media collections, banning any books, movies, music, magazines, or video games it deems detrimental to Christianity. Men may not grow their sideburns past their earlobes, have hair covering their ears, or keep moustaches beyond the corners of their mouths. Social and dance clubs as well face quite a bit of consternation. Youre not supposed to be having sex in the first place, for one. Evansville, IN Deaconess Sports Park. Register for Classes (Students) - Student Planning. 13:13; Rom. It really sucks that you went to such an awful college. but those who curtail their rights are guilty of stupidities. This was in Roger Rosenblatt in his essay We are Free to Be You, Me, Stupid and Dead. Well I attended Pennsacola and BJU and frankly PCC was much better. Good job elarning to sneak though. EAST LANSING, Mich. (AP) The 43-year-old gunman who killed three students and wounded five others at Michigan State University had no apparent connection to the campus, police said Tuesday as they searched for a motive for shootings that terrified the community for hours.. Investigators were sorting out why Anthony McRae fired inside an academic building and the student union just before 8 . I can understand dancing in a lewd manner in clubs being prohibited (not really, actually I cant understand most of these being prohibited even when it comes to upholding an image of morality) but what about ballet? If, however, you only ensure that they grow up in an environment where these are banned, this only serves to increase their allure should they ever break free from the strict and dogmatic rules that you place to limit their actions. The rule is not to Bible-thump students into submission and control. Cedarville University is an independent Baptist school located in Cedarville, Ohio, which teaches its academics "by Christian tradition" meaning, believing that their take on religion is the only right view, that free speech is a no-no, that gays are evil, that evolution is religion and creationism is science, that the bible is a history textbook and that any TV show/movie/video game/book . Most schools understandably want their students to stay away from breaking the law or acting inconsiderately towards others but Ozark Christian College also places tight regulations on legal activities as well. Degree: Allied Health. The university itself is also strongly anti-alcohol, arguing that consumption of alcohol is inconsistent with a Biblical lifestyle, even though Jesus drank wine and the Bible is filled with positive references to alcohol. Choose this day whom you will serve, and if you will serve the Lord, beware, lest you make the grace of our God into Lasciviousness. Above all, we pray God would be honored by our deliberations and actions. Just food for thought. If you study at a high quality MBA program in the United States, you can use that degree to improve your reputation and career ANYWHERE in the world, unlike law or medical degrees (or worthless degrees from diploma mills). It is based on a set of core values and the Cedarville Covenant which shape each students experience at Cedarville University. I go to Oral Roberts University. Woah this blog is great i really like reading your posts. Whether you are the religion these campuses represent or not. Lets hope your RA didnt pursue a career in counseling. Seems irrelevant to me. Society may indeed be corrupt, but Christianity is no better. Id go ahead and start packing. Cedarville College was established in 1887 by five godly men who envisioned a college that would provide Christian higher education. Twitter. Perhaps they are harmful. Institutions promoting morality in an immoral society. I laud these schools and urge them to bring moral decadence to the bearet minimum. This is EXTREMELY uninformed. He made us to love each other and him. As part of this I had to see the Dean of Men and he told me of a couple who rubbed against each other until bad things happened apparently he was expecting me to admit the same (4) One time in a private setting in a social area for couples to spend time she sat on my lap we were told by a person representing the college this was inappropriate behavior; (5) chapel attendance was required and attendance taken and I believe 2 misses meant disciplinary action (6) guys and girls were not allowed to swim together although I believe this has changed (7) Very little help was provided if you needed help in academics, although one of the college missions is to provide help to those in KY who had inferior high school experiences (6) It was extremely rule oriented it was about following the rules and not about development and transformation as a responsible ethical who loved God and Christ. Forgery, providing incomplete or misleading information, scanning and not attending chapel, or misuse of your student ID card are examples of dishonesty that will result in discipline. But premarital sex, homosexuality, aligning oneself with occult religions (though the handbook never actually specifies which belief systems they consider occult), using expletives, tobacco possession or use, dancing, and working at any establishment that encourages or involves any such things apparently constitute impropriety and stand as offenses worthy of expulsion. A church I was told to attend? Quite honestly, speaking as a Christian myself, attending a private Christian college is not always the best choice depending on your career path. Cedarville goes far beyond regulations mandated in the DFSC Act by attempting to regulate the daily lives of their students whether on or off campus. My experience is that Asbury failed to portray the Christian faith in a serious way because She became more interested in the rules than the outcomes (Paul made a big deal of this in the bible). All students are also required to adhere to a stringent dress code lest they find themselves facing a few more fines along the way. In fact, they DID say, students should not drink too much alcohol, thereby maintaining self-control over their bodies. The point of this article was not to condone drunkenness, but to challenge Cedarvilles policy against responsible alcohol consumption for adults. Carson outlines ten items that can be used to determine what constitutes a theologically disputable matterwhich Cedarville claims includes use of alcohol. The only strict rule they have is drinking and they wont kick you out if they find out you drank. Welcome to a nation who makes each individual feel entitled to make his own god based on his opinion. Lets see,,, marry a girl from a christian college who has conducted herself appropriately, has good manners, no baggage, no std`s, is modest and will make a good wife and mother. D.A. The official Honor Code of BYU strictly outlaws camping trips with members of the opposite sex, though instances with separate accommodations for males and females will at least receive a modicum of consideration and reduced discipline if unauthorized. Many colleges with rules similar to these have their students sign a form stating that they have read the rules and agree to live by them mine did. Many who attend the strictest places were either home-schooled or went to hard-line fundy christian schools and churches their whole life. Some are grounds for immediate expulsion, while others build up over time before a student can be dismissed. and I would rather put up with some questionably strict rules if that meant that You should research before you post something. This Florida institution takes its honor court very, very seriously going so far as to issue demerits for a number of completely legal offenses. Now of course in the Bible he warns against sins, things that werent made by his own creation, but by the fall of mankind and free will. I barely made it through a semester. No video games may possess an M rating, nor are students allowed to own movies above the PG-13 rating. "Each program at Cedarville University comes from a biblical world view. The power is usually slanted in the parents favor, particularly in highly religious homes. 2nd Just because something is legal doesnt make it good for you. It is not discouraged at all! Bob Jones University requires all students to attend regular church, Sunday school, society, Bible conferences, artist series programs, and vespers services on campus, though not necessarily in a single week. But people can dance randomly if they want at any time of course as long as youre not grinding your boyfriend or getting down low, youre good. If your happy with your life, enjoy it your clearly not hurting anyone and therefore absolutely entitled to that choice; and for many that way of life makes people better. 31:30). Now on to the next part. Camping trips with the opposite sex arent strictly forbidden; theyre just discouraged. Please rethink your mission before writing on something destructive. Expressions of dance performed in a manner that honors God and promotes holiness are permitted. If you tell them honestly what excessive use of alcohol does to people, they wont *want* to get wasted. Thank you for your comment! Which brings up the question Why go there if you dont fit? In addition to University prohibitions, state and federal law prohibits the unlawful sale, use, or possession of drugs and alcohol. It is NOT frowned upon if you do not attend other Christian things like church simply suggested. 23:3135; Prov. We should not drink alcohol around underage students or those who struggle with alcoholism. leftover elk tags wyoming; when did rumspringa originate; cedarville university crazy rules The main thing I learned from my year there was how to be sneaky. YAAAY ORU and all the others. They understandably discourage illegal and discourteous behaviors such as excessive drunkenness, but generally harmless actions like possessing legal pornography, moderate drinking, disciplined gambling, dancing, sensuality, premarital sex, and homosexuality all remain condemned and held up as just as harmful to young, educated minds. As for dancing it is entirely allowed. The point is, in my opinion, someone needs to establish guidelines for our youth.. He let a known to be unclean woman wash his feet with perfume. Here are just four, from least to most problematic: The school has a religious affiliation with the Baptist faith. HA!!! I went to Asbury and had no issues. Students are not to attend clubs or bars where alcohol is the primary feature and Students are not permitted to attend parties where alcohol is being used in a manner that violates university standards.. More information on the personal care attendant policy and other disability accommodations is available at cedarville.edu/disabilities . Jerry, Im sorry you and your wife had problems at Asbury. Serving alcohol at bars or restaurants, keeping hours past 10:30 PM on weekdays and midnight on weekends, and door-to-door sales without expressed permission from the dean or a retail license are all forbidden by Bob Jones University. It might be time for a look at the past before blaming a school for your wifes lack of faith Just saying. Premarital sex is wrong,the bible clearly states so amongst other things. Unfortunately, many forms of dancing are closely associated with things that undermine godliness. Cedarville ought to take this Biblical message to heart and change their policies to allow responsible use of alcohol. Most are Christians, majority of them from teh south and alot of them are athletes. It is not unreasonable for them to expect the students attending a Christian college to live up to the standards lai out for them. Im not talking about breaking these rules, Im talking about snobishly being on the look for anyone that might be breaking these rules and falesly accusing them. Your argument is no better than saying something is right because its in Mein Kampf or saying that Western values are wrong because they upset Osama bin Laden so much he destroyed some buildings. If anything, its pushing them further away because they feel even more separated from God. Probably a shock, but I not only know how to cook and clean, I also do the home repairs, budget,renovations, I sew and Im active with several charities, many Christian. -Underage gambling is also against the law (and also gives into the sin of greed) But do you know which degree is still highly valuable? __________________________ My daughter graduated from Asbury this year. Even if you are a staunch conservative fundamentalist christian, I would not recommend attending Pensacola Christian College. Those who attend any religious school, on their own desire, will attend one in line with their personal religious beliefs. Would you consider keeping Cedarville dry but not trying to control students during breaks a reasonable middle ground, or is it more of a all-or-nothing for you? PERSONAL CARE AND RESPONSIBILITY All students are expected to live independently and are responsible for their own personal care. However, while I appreciate the desire to have a biblically based view on alcohol, I do believe this article misses the heart behind the rule of abstaining from alcohol while being a student at Cedarville. Students at these schools are missing out. The dress can best be described as business casual. [emailprotected]. She ate me out the first week I was there and gifted me with my first strap on fucking a few weeks latter. All of you commenting on this comment box are complete fools have you not forgotten what country you live in its the United States people. Dami, 1) Some book says so doesnt justify anything. 5:18; 1 Tim. (IF you live somewhere else then you should not know what most of these colleges are anyways because they are in the U.S) This country has set its standards and limitations and guess what the four founding fathers said my dear friends, Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.. I read the qualifications for these schools and got to thinking about it seriously. Be offended but remember that nobody cares youre offended. Stay up the great paintings! People who attend strict colleges probably do so because they prefer a stricter environment. This article oversimplifies the issue, as well as interprets the motives behind the rule, both of which are misleading. If you are a student at Cedarville, you know that the university resides in the historically dry town of Cedarville, OH. 31:4; Rom. If your God did these things (and science shows Sodom was the victim of a meteor strike, not magic) that makes your God evil and you should be ashamed to be promoting evil and defending the murder of gay people. Carson engages in an enlightening discourse on the disputable matters Cedarville references in the student handbook. Students are not to attend bars or clubs where alcohol is the primary feature. The author of this article did not support, in any way, shape or form, getting drunk. There are so many problems with this statement. However, I dont think its quite as strict as some of the other colleges on this list, notably 1 3. God tried to strike me with lightning for being there but he missed.lol jk The rigor is tough and the women are drop dead gorgeousbut bottom line, they are human and live life very similar to everyone else, they just do it in a bit of a different way. The handbook gives the wrong message in this part; dancing is not allowed in groups if it is /suggestive or sultry./ They try to limit large dancing gatherings because they, of course, cannot monitor everyone to make sure they are following that rule. Rather, they will be dependant on their belief in God to serve as a sort of eternal chaperone, which I think is unhealthy. I dont even go to church anywhere around campus. McKendree. Of course, the handbook does too. That basically means being a jackass and expressing your self is better than being idiotic enough to try to stop them because of the First Amendment. Alcohol is held up as equally detrimental as illegal substances regardless of whether or not a student partakes responsibly and remains at or above the drinking age and the University does not discriminate on whether or not consumption or possession takes place on- or off-campus, either. As we know from history, prohibition massively failed. College is not supposed to be your babysitter, it is a learning experience meant to prepare you for the way the world is. It was merely noted that many outside the affiliated fundamentalist organizations may look over their rules and find their jaws dropping. In addition, all students enrolled in 12 or more hours are required to attend at least one chapel event a week. To write that students are fully aware of the rules is a twist of the truth and reality. In fact, Amos 9:14 says, I will restore the fortunes of my people Israel, and they shall rebuild the ruined cities and inhabit them; they shall plant vineyards and drink their wine, and they shall make gardens and eat their fruit.. Students are also reminded that underage drinking violates federal law. Cedarville's first rule is undoubtedly pointed at women. As for chapel, yeah, its mandatory. they as adults need freedom to make own choices. hahaha what a joke, and you call yourselves civilized. According to the student handbook, "Nearly 70% of our undergraduates are under the legal drinking age. Where did you get your information? Woah this blog is magnificent i like reading your posts. Behavior that would cause property damage or directly impedes or disrupts the lawful activity of others. Cedarvilles prohibition of alcohol simply diversifies students tactics to engage in the habits they will inevitably choose to form. In their quest to encourage their students to live like Christ or, more accurately, their interpretations of how Christ lived these schools push upon them a series of heavy restrictions involving their behaviors on and off campus.
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