But Ive never done it in any detail other than, of course, over a very long period in a witness box in the Old Bailey. I thought I was due what everyone was due in that kind of situation. [62], Coulson was charged with having committed perjury during the trial in 2010 of Tommy and Gail Sheridan. And I talked them through it and I explained that Id been found guilty and that Id be going to a prison and then Id be moved at some point to an open prison and then they could come and see me. Obviously, I knew nothing about it other than the fact that it was a D-Cat and therefore would be better than where I was. So, they made me an education orderly and I went and worked with a brilliant woman who runs the education programme at Hollesley Bay and I was effectively her teaching assistant, if you like. I was working with people from another party and we all made that work really well. I am very sorry for the mistakes that I made at the News of the World. But youve never shared your own experience. Jane: Obviously, your boys came to see you there and you tried to keep it as jolly and normal as possible, but when they left that must have been hard. It was that sort of combination of mind-numbing boredom, an awful lot of frustration because I was told that I would be in Belmarsh for a couple of days and then Id be categorised, given the nature of my conviction, be categorised as a D-Cat pretty swiftly, and then Id be off to an open prison. Andy: Well that didnt happen immediately, because theres a period of time between verdict and sentencing. Very hard to get it down to 10 songs, let alone get it down to one, but I think if I had to choose one it would be Keep Your Head Up by Ben Howard, which is a bit of a family anthem. I can tell you that Belmarsh is not a holiday camp by any measure. Prison is a, very obviously, stark place but it is also packed with emotion. And I have some views on what works and what doesnt work in prison, having been inside one for a while, though I do not claim to be an expert by any means, given the length of time I was there. It taught me that I consider myself to be a reasonably good friend but I think I could have been better, so I think it taught me to be a better friend. [59] In June 2014, Coulson was found guilty of one charge of conspiracy to intercept voicemails and he was sentenced to 18 months in prison on 4 July 2014. - Devised and implemented a new Conduct Risk Framework and Conduct risk management strategy for Permanent TSB Group. Certainly, when you find yourself in crisis and thats also, more importantly, just not how I see it. Andy: Well, just the checking-in process because Id obviously tried to do some research beforehand. Coulson's parents moved from their Basildon council house to nearby Wickford during his childhood. Theres a lot of kind of, Ill help you out here and you help me, and I knew I wasnt going to engage in any of that. Andy: Well I will always argue that the mistakes were not criminal, because thats what I spent a lot of time standing in a witness box arguing and because its what I believe. Youve got parameters but you dont really know because in the end that is obviously in the gift of the judge. He added that the case against him had been a "waste of money". Theres also one thats totally out of your control and that is random violence. You benefit from undiluted, unambiguous one-to-one advice, game changing campaigns and crisis guidance from p Having to ring Eloise and say, its not just about getting through this prison sentence, we are going to do it all over again, that was probably the worst moment. Before Patrick's last year of High School he left . Jane: Well, talking of which, as a journalist, we also know the picture that everybody wants is of somebody in the prison van being taken away. And it was over 20 years of my life, Jane, as you know. So your boys did come to Belmarsh? Andy: Yeah, there came a point where I was told pretty formally, youre not going anywhere. Thats how I sort of see it really and thats how I see life. Id start with that, I think. BirthName, Nickname, and Profession So first, let's take a look at some personal details of Andy, like name, nickname, and profession. Ive never been through what youve been through, but a lot of people when they have a day or whatever, you think about other people who are worse off than you. Jane: And when they came to visit Belmarsh, because a lot of people listening to this will never have been to a Category A prison, even to visit, why is that your regret? Early life. 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Reading has been very important through my crisis. And, of course, we became friends because we worked together a long time and David and his family went through, as everyone remembers, some truly appalling times during the period. Did you ever feel scared? Youve got to find your match and Ive definitely done that. It takes you nowhere. You pull up and the gates open and you know youre going to prison, youre in no doubt that youre going to prison. So, although they were still pretty young, theyd had a crash course in the law and in the legal process, if you like, already. [38] In March 2017, Coulson Chappell was awarded a contract by the Telegraph Media Group (TMG) to improve the standing of the company's publications, The Daily Telegraph and The Sunday Telegraph. Jane: You were acquitted. And the only way to deal with it was to take one at a time and that is another common theme that has been coming out in these podcasts, that when you are in crisis, dont try and take control of everything. I love a good book, both fiction and non-fiction. So thats how I spent quite a bit of my time there. I didnt find it easy but Im glad, once we got to Hollesley Bay, Im very glad we did it. Andy: On the morning that I knew I was going to prison, I went to the back of my garden (I live out in the country), I went over the fence and into a field and then eventually I arranged for a local cab. Jane: So, lets sort of go back in time a bit. Because his family relocated frequently, he had lived in seven cities by the time he was 17. And there were some jet streams in the sky, without getting too poetic about it. And the reason that Ive been able to, its been a long time since I came out of prison and the reason Ive been able to get back on my feet, Ive got a reasonably successful business now and Ive got some fantastic clients and colleagues, life is pretty good, and that is in large part due to her. Never mind my resilience and my crisis, the truth of the matter is it was as much a crisis for them and for Ellie as it was for me. You take some advice. Andy: Their choice really. Its an audit, right, when these things happen in your life. Do you sort of feel, oddly, that all that crisis brought you closer together? But pretty quickly I got my head around it and although we spent a lot of time behind the door there were also periods of time when youre allowed out to exercise, walking around a concrete yard. A thoroughly depressing experience, with barbed wire around you and over you, actually, to stop helicopters coming in. Jane: And that was what, because of the dangers of drug smuggling? Jane: We talked a bit, obviously, there about family and knowing the value of your family. I never asked for any favours at all from anyone, but what I didnt think was fair was for me to be treated differently. Its proper drama. Jane: Were obviously talking about a whole series crises in a way with you, its like crisis Whac-A-Mole. And that is, I have to say, largely thanks to Eloise because shes, maybe well get on to it, the reason I got through is her. I felt it was a bit on the steep side but it was within the parameters, so its up to the judge, the sentencing in technical terms. Thats why I resigned from the News of the World and then when I was in Downing Street, Im there thinking how on Earth can I do this job? I ran it as a campaign in my head and I had charts on the wall, at one stage the house was literally full of files. But no, certainly not in this kind of context. Jane: You are just talking there about your absolute love of that job at Downing Street. Now, a lot of women, I think, in particular listening to this would think, well we wouldnt blame her for just giving up on you after all of that, but she didnt. I think that the danger with this conversation, if Im brutally honest with you, as we sit here right at the start of it, is that it somehow comes off as woe is me. Jane: Do you feel a need to keep on apologising? [33], Prior to the jury handing down their verdict after Coulson's trial, Cameron issued a "full and frank" apology for hiring Coulson, saying "I am extremely sorry that I employed him. Those were my choices and when you take jobs like that, people are going to form a view. The judge hearing Coulson's trial was critical of the prime minister, pondering whether the intervention was out of ignorance or deliberate, and demanded an explanation. During that time Andy faced three criminal trials. Andy Coulson is Former Editor of News of the World, Former Director of Communications, Downing Street, and an expert speaker on communications, crisis management and reputation. Andy: Well sometimes literally all day. And that was partly necessary, just from a practical point of view, but it was also definitely a coping mechanism as well. Suddenly youre on trial at the Old Bailey and youre hearing the word guilty; tell us about that moment. View the profiles of professionals named "Andy Coulson" on LinkedIn. In 2005 at the age of 16, Patrick Collison was the recipient of the 41 st Young Scientist of the Year for his work with Lisp. Also learn how He earned most of networth at the age of 52 years old? And before I knew it, because its down underneath the Old Bailey where you get on the bus, you then go up a ramp and it was a gloriously sunny day, July the fourth, ironically enough, Independence Day 2014. I know Harvey was, what, 14? I just think people deal with things in different ways. But as I said in court, I made a lorry load of mistakes as an editor. It was all part of that experience, it's what you have got to lean on and you change and you evolve and I definitely got to that point by the time I got to prison. Andy: Hindsight yeah, but honestly hindsight is pointless in my view, particularly when you are trying to get through the crisis. Andy: My sentence, having been found guilty of the crime, was probably about right. So, actually, often there are these little small acts of kindness in prison, he didnt have to do it but he let me go to the phone and call Eloise and say that this things out there, but just be assured its total rubbish. [1] He follows Tottenham Hotspur. Andys been upfront about that aspect of his CV during this podcast series and, indeed, has talked openly with his former prison mate, the England cricketer Chris Lewis, but hes never discussed his own crisis in any depth, until now. And thats just not where I am. Six former members of staff from the now defunct. Where did the resilience come from, do you think, to deal with that? So, wed had lots of conversations but then, yes, we had to have a conversation about what it meant. So when I was taken from the cell, youre then handcuffed and you line up and you wait to get on the bus. [22], On 21 July 2009 Coulson appeared in front of the House of Commons Culture, Media and Sport Select Committee and denied any knowledge of the phone hacking scandal, saying "my instructions to the staff were clear we did not use subterfuge of any kind unless there was a clear public interest in doing so. Its a wine called Chateau Musar and its from the Lebanon and I chose it because it is really tasty and also because it is liquid proof that there is good to come from crisis, given where this wine is made. Its constantly incoming and my job, in fact, was to manage those crises. It's only the bloody Stig.This Just In is an online comedy service . As a newspaper editor, its a weekly crisis, daily crisis when youre working on The Sun, which is of course where I spent most of my time, most of my career. [14] On 30 June 2014, it was announced that he would face a retrial over two counts of conspiring to cause misconduct in public office in relation to the alleged purchase of confidential royal phone directories in 2005 from a palace police officer after the jury in the original trial was unable to reach a verdict on them. Because Id worked very hard at the News of the World, working weekends and god knows what else. I think it was wrong. I want to focus on what we dont know, which is obviously the theme of this podcast, and how you handled that crisis point of your life and, of course, the effect that it had on your family. Andy Coulson is Founder of www.coulsonpartners.com and host of www.crisiswhatcrisis.com. Its not on my record. He thankfully survived and is perfectly fit and well now, but it was touch and go for a while and ask me those moments, you know, when your son is going into an operating theatre, compare that moment with the moment of going through the green door that I described; there is no comparison. Thats all nonsense. There are dogs and there are searches and its another one of those sort of movie scenes. Andy: Well its a mixture of things, I think, as it is for most people. Andrew Edward Coulson (born 21 January 1968)[2][3] is an English journalist and political strategist. [27], After David Cameron became Prime Minister in May 2010, he appointed Coulson as Director of Communications for the government at 10 Downing Street. Ask me where all the bad decisions are and there are quite a few, you might argue thats one of them. On one level its fundamentally depressing to find yourself there. Jane: You dont really talk about yourself very much. 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