alone did not sink Titanic, that it had a fire burning in the coal bunkers for a Excerpt from the documentary "Titanic Breaking New Ground" when director James Cameron explores B-52 during his 1995 dive. of the surviving crew. Wheelton, however, continues down to the storeroom and then went again up to the boat deck on the starboard side. How many crew and passengers were onboard prior to the rescue? Surviving crew signed the Official Secrets Act Titanic researcher and wreck explorer Parks Stephenson, who most recently was involved in photographing the Titanic wreck in 2019, simply replied: "People will see what they want" (26/09/2019) and posted this image: Claim: The starboard B-deck windows on the wreck are narrow, which matches the Olympic, not the Titanic. They also allege that the three wireless messages the Californian sent Titanic were personally addressed to Captain Smith, telling him of her position, as if the Californian was telling Smith that she was ready and waiting. In regard to J.P. Morgan cancelling "at the last minute," research by Mark Baber and posted on Encyclopedia Titanica actually reveals it to be an urban myth. It is true that there was a coal strike and this had serious repercussions for the shipping and maritime industries. I saw a child who will never sleep. Dr. Fenton is a board-certified, fellowship-trained thoracic surgeon with training and experience in thoracic oncology and minimally invasive surgery, including robotic surgery. The Turkish bath spaces were different. Also as above, if there were such large structural differences between the ships, how is it they are not noticeable in photographs and also spotted by passengers and crew familiar with the Olympic? Olympic was damaged badly enough to force the voyage to be cancelled. 19344. Claim: Historians have always mused that it was rather strange that Titanic was never shown the enormous publicity that Olympic received the year before. The letters for Titanic are shown here in embossed form when in reality the outlines were etched into the hull. Those travelling east bound logically did not depart from England, and so were relatively unaffected by the coal strike. After returning to England in 1976, he reported on British politics for the New Statesman. that the damaged Olympic had a broken keel and could not make half speed during the sea trials. The source of this erroneous claim is here. All other portholes on this part of the ship remained as they appeared at the time of her launch. CourtesySteve Hall and Bruce Beveridge's book Titanic or Olympic, Which Ship Sank? the cast iron fireplace with its veined marble surround to still be in place. In Titanic's case, it was likely due to improper ballasting--too much on the port side or too little on the starboard. Well, let's look at the image with and without the multi-coloured scribbles: Left: the original wreck image scaled up and rotated to match the 'meme'. Steve Hall and Bruce Beveridge investigated this account in their book His father, a hotel proprietor and licensed victualler, was also born in Portsmouth whilst his mother was a native of Alfriston, Sussex. The Poetry Archive -- James Fenton is one of the numerous poets featured on this fantastic website. RMS Olympic after the collision with HMS Hawke. Deck plans However the way in which it is painted to look part of a conspiracy theory Hall and Beveridge note in regard to this photograph that although "the overlapped doubler is hidden behind the stowed anchor, In 1973 Terminal Moraine (1972), his first full-length collection of poetry, won the Eric Gregory Award. His English translation of Giuseppe Verdis Rigoletto was staged by the English National Opera in 1982. He always maintained that the iceberg alone did not sink Titanic, that it had a fire burning in the coal bunkers for a week and that the Captain and the company knew about it. The reality: In close-up we can clearly see that the name Titanic was actually sketched on to the negative/photograph to make it more visible and so cannot be used for reference. Thirdly, the characteristics of the Olympic were already known so there was less of a learning curve to deal with. It was longer as it had to cover up the word Olympic that occupied more space. Frankfurt (140 miles) Norddeutscher Lloyd Line Eastbound, Galveston to Bremerhaven. Some thus reason that the swap still took place out of business and economic necessity. They were metal plates which were screwed on. And that was a very surreal kind of image for me too to see these little white crabs crawling around in the fireplace of the room that was commissioned for J.P.Morgan. In fact, according to American researcher Jon Hollis, the bell recovered His answer, as it was in relation to the wreck only, is because "the wreck wasn't 100% confirmed until Jim Cameron's expedition in 2010/11 i.e. It was our intention if we had fine weather on Monday afternoon or Tuesday to Regardless, the key issue with this claim - like so many - is that there is no verifiable record of this - no exact quotation, date, location, photograph or even independent testimony of the account. This is where it landed, just on that forewell deck. Olympic, Titanic and Britannic) all had watertight bulkheads so it would Claim: As welding had not yet been invented, it was customary for White Star Line to etch or cut the names of their liners into the steel and not rivet them to the outside. The Government man read the crew the Official Secrets Veined marble is a naturally occurring metamorphic crystalline limestone and, like snowflakes and finger prints, no two pieces are the same. Though his verse often treated serious subjects such as political repression and violence, he deployed humour and whimsy with a liberal hand. Upon graduation in 1970, Fenton embarked upon a career as a freelance journalist and was hired (1971) to report on literature and politics for the New Statesman. Clutch my hand. Claim: The Californian had a cargo of a few thousand woolly jumpers and blankets, as if they were ready for a rescue mission. After this documentary went to air Steve Hall co-authored a new book Titanic or Olympic: Which Ship Sank? And those occasions he returned early were in June - never as early as April. - Lookout Reginald Lee at the British Inquiry (Day 4) ice " fall inboard. 45. Now, director James Cameron is hoping . First and foremost we must address the fact that 'tonnage' mentioned here does not refer to a ship's "weight". Fitting out photographs Mount Temple (50 miles) Canadian Pacific Steamship Company cargo ship, Westbound, London to St. John's, Newfoundland Olympic had a 2 degree list to port, as did Titanic A post disaster image of Olympic shows the plating joint has disappeared, revealing she is in fact Titanic. B-deck window spacing on the wreck A Garden from a Hundred Packets of Seed (2001) inventoried some of Fentons favourite plants and his philosophy on how they should be planted. In 1979 he became a theatre critic for The Sunday Times, for which he also later served as a book critic. 'The Olympic Room' 40. According to author Mark Chirnside "In April 1912, the passenger certificate of Titanic's rescue ship Carpathia (13,603 gross tons) certified her for 2,864 passengers and crew, yet she had lifeboat accommodation (boats under davits) for 702 persons. 4. However there is absolutely no evidence Olympic or Titanic ever had their names "riveted on". Titanic had a "slight, but permanent, list to port" as observed by Lawrence Beesley and "several other surviving passengers.". a lifeboat, keeping older hands on deck for lowering boats. 3. then they absolutely need more than this very doubtful photograph to prove that Olympic's "doubler" is not overlapping and hence it is actually Titanic. Fenton was born to an Anglican priest and his wife, who died when Fenton was 10. This is consistent with the damage previously sustained by Olympic. Gardiner of course claims that all documentary records indicating otherwise were falsified in order to perpetuate the insurance fraud which was about to take place. Most tellingly, if indeed "a large proportion of the engine crew" refused to work aboard Titanic because of rumours of a 'switch,' then why did these crewmen not speak out, especially after the disaster? it is difficult to examine the evidence (if there is any) but needless to say it does sound like hearsay and an attempt to offset This claim is often accompanied with some unverified private anecdote of having met Ballard or seeing a presentation given by him shortly after the discovery of the Titanic in the 1980s. It is correct that Olympic's hull was painted white for her launch to stand out stronger in photographs and film, and that Titanic was not. 2. Titanic when launched was a work in progress, designed to be a better, improved version of her older sister Olympic. (Click image to enlarge). In the documentary James Cameron explains: These rooms, they were called the Millionaire's Suites, we went into the one that was reserved for J.P. Morgan. Even if that simple fact is not enough, the other alleged details regarding the Californian are being misrepresented. Displacement tonnage is the actual weight of a ship (about 52,000 tons for Titanic). The fact that the Olympic went on to serve 24 years is simply because the damage was repaired. The claim does not align with Ballard's writing on the matter. James Fenton, in full James Martin Fenton, (born April 25, 1949, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England), English poet and journalist who was remarked upon for his facility with a wide variety of verse styles and for the liberal political views threading his oeuvre. He was awarded the Queens Gold Medal for Poetry in 2007 and won the PEN Pinter Prize in 2015. there is no proof that a man of that name was ever aboard Titanic; his name is not on any of the crew lists or among any of the survivor lists . that the carpet was to hide "12 months worth of scratches and marks on the linoleum's surface"? Claim: The stern section of the wreck has a longitudinal bulkhead, that looks like a temporary repair had been made to strengthen the keel, exactly what had happened to RMS Olympic. It came from a mold and so there should be no surprise they are exactly the same, that is what you expect from faux marble. Otherwise there is no other evidence crew were forced to sign any "Official Secrets Act." of the surviving crew. Claim: The Californian was sent to rendezvous with Titanic and collect the passengers after the intentional sinking. Titanic split at the same point where the Hawke hit. Winning the prestigious Newdigate Prize at Oxford for his poem Our Western Furniture, Fenton seemed destined for poetic fame. 20. Compare it with the damage photograph below. The Olympic didn't even have a carpet, but the Titanic -- ah, you sank in it up to your knees. LET'S SEE THE "EXPERTS" DEBUNK THIS ONE." Alleged footage of Olympic's name on the wreck - it is obviously fake. aware she never exceeded 75 revolutions. rumours of an insurance scam, they would serve a minimum of 20 years in jail Chirnside and Halpern conclude: "There is no doubt that Titanics speed was increased steadily throughout her maiden voyage, revolutions were increased, boilers brought online, and preparations Titanic's insurance was increased 5 days before sailing One must also suggest - if those behind the 'switch' were so clever so as to be able to switch absolutely everything aboard Olympic/Titanic as to include the numbers 400/401 etched onto the back of wooden panels in all the state rooms (refer to point here) then how is it they would No, and for one very simple reason: it is a faux marble fireplace. The longer they were at sea, the more money it cost. by passengers and crew familiar with the Olympic? - Yes. The fireplace filmed in 1995 and which partly was shown in the "Titanic" movie at the beginning were actually the fireplace of sitting room B 51 which was occupied by Mrs. Cardeza and her son. There was nothing particulary newsworthy about her. This is his testimony: I understand it has been stated that the ship was going at full speed. Californian was carrying woolly jumpers and blankets Far from the wisdom of the brain. Explorers from the Woods Hole Oceanic Institution used robotic vehicles to collect images during programmed sweeps of the wreck. However, if the panelling had been from Olympic the number would have been 400 not 401." Damage from Olympic's collision with Hawke was more significant But unsurprisingly in 2019 a new 'meme' appeared on the internet claiming to show evidence from the wreck site that repair work done to Olympic caused by the Hawke collision can be seen in wreck photographs, captioned with "YOU NEED PROOF? answer was to grind the names off the bells. As it is a montage that was artificially created they could have quite easily ensured that this area was not accurately shown.? Hardly "numerous" or warranting any suspicion, especially considering sailed in a great hurry from Belfast and said that when they hit the iceberg it This is another one of those inaccurate claims that more importantly does not make any sense even if it was accurate. While the Sea Scouts were restoring the old life boat they discovered the name Olympic cut into the gunwhale. Captain Smith posing for one of Southampton's local newspapers shortly before Titanic's sailing day. Harold Sanderson repeatedly referred to Titanic as Olympic james fenton titanic. (This was mentioned in Dan van der Vat and Robin Gardiners 1995 book, The Riddle of the Titanic, page 21.) After a million men had walked out for 37 days the government intervened and ended the strike by passing a minimum wage law. Two libretti and an oratorio were published as The Love Bomb (2003). 1,496 people are believed to have died when the Titanic went down. Claims for this range from "two of the firemen, boiler stokers and greasers" to "a large proportion of the engine crew" to the specific number of 173 who 'preferred to wait for employment on another ship.' This means Morgan would certainly have no reason to return early on April 10 especially when he was due in Venice by April 23 (remembering that the transatlantic voyages are at least 5 days long, he would be unlikely to make it back in time). 3. There were no plates or anything that could be swapped over- the name was literally engraved into the ship, then filled in with paint. The crew aboard Titanic from Belfast to Southampton were (except for the deck officers) local operators (or "runners") who mostly worked on voyages that were made locally, and did this with a number of ships, not just Titanic. and loss account for the year to December 31 st 1911 was in surplus by 1,102,756 Well it first must be noted that compared to the Mark Chirnside reports the following: "The companys surplus on the profit In fact, White Stars profit There is no record of anyone doing so. When they were not working, they were in the pub, drinking and talking. Difference in port side joint plating Thirdly, the description "numerous" is very misleading. At least one of them would speak to someone, or at the very least have a deathbed confession and not one single report was ever made. This woodwork has the reverse sides clearly marked. Claim: Patchwork and braces from repair work due to damaged caused by the Hawke collision with the Olympic found in Titanic's stern wreck photographs. The story come from Frank Finch, a retired seaman living in New South Wales, Australia, who wrote a letter to Claim: The name plate of Titanic is longer on the ship as it went on its maiden voyage compared to when it was being built. We know that Titanic had spare propellers made (as after the disaster they were used for memorials) so it would not be unreasonable to expect Olympic was the same. Additionally, especially as the ship was being labelled "practically unsinkable" how would they explain this 'mysterious' flooding to the inquiries that would no doubt take place afterward? There is nothing here on which to base a 'switch' theory. (Click image to enlarge). Secondly, the angle and lighting conditions are very different from the other images, so it is not a fair comparison. Firstly, how would White Star believe they could pull something like this off when no doubt hundreds of crew would see water pouring into the ship through the seacocks? (for more information see here). James Fenton on how variation in a line presents the poet with many challenges. Discoloured plating on Titanic distribution for 1910 being 30 percent after depreciation. First and foremost is that the Californian would be a ridiculous choice as a rescue vessel. In this photograph we see Captain Smith and First officer Murdoch on Olympic's bridge and clearly see a curved wheelhouse behind them. Actually, it is quite likely true that most of the Belfast 'delivery trip' crew did not sign on for Titanic's maiden voyage. When the Titanic sailed on her maiden voyage in April 1912, the number of passengers that she was carrying was very similar to the number that was booked onto Olympic for her maiden voyage the year before. So higher or sealed bulkheads would not necessarily have prevented Titanic from sinking, Titanic was not open for the press and public inspection There is no proof that a man named James Fenton, also known as Paddy Fenton or "Paddy the Pig" was ever aboard Titanic; his name is not on any of the crew lists or among any of the survivor lists. It is clearly in a different area. James Fenton, in full James Martin Fenton, (born April 25, 1949, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England), English poet and journalist who was remarked upon for his facility with a wide variety of verse styles and for the liberal political views threading his oeuvre. But perhaps more importantly, the Carpathia was at least 50 miles away from the Titanic when it sank and did not respond until hearing the distress messages. The crossing from Belfast to Southampton was a short crossing, while the North Atlantic route (Southampton to New York) was much longer. However, as with the mythical "private flat in the Wirral" claim, this is devoid of any documented evidence. I think it is impossible that the Olympics keel was damaged in the collision, as Robin Gardiner speculates in his 1998 book Titanic: The Ship That Never Sank? Olympic officers on the bridge Hence the White Star Line and their publicity agents logically used photographs of her older twin sister instead. the Olympic. It is a wild claim based purely on imagination. Promenade Suites, identical to Olympic's. However, 1,000 tons of alterations were made resulting in a final tonnage of 46,328. 23. First and foremost there is no documented evidence to verify it. showing through, but which under the harsh lighting conditions looks more white than grey. Let us know if you have suggestions to improve this article (requires login). Does it reveal evidence of suspicious or unusual damage? Refer to this previous point here for more information on the name Titanic on the wreck. 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